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Sanskrit 1 year, 4 months ago #1134

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Hilferding, A. F. (1853) On the affinity of the Slavic language with Sanskrit. St. Petersburg:
A.F. Hilferding in his work "On the affinity of the Slavic with Sanskrit" (1853) wrote: "... Slavic language, taken in its entirety, does not differ from the Sanskrit by any permanent, organic phonetical change. Some distinction, found in it, like some lisping "r" of the Czechs and Poles and others, have developed already in the later, historical era, and belong to only a few of their vernaculars. I repeat that in the overall the Slavic language does not have any particular distinctions alien to the Sanskrit. The Lithuanian language shares with it this property, whereas all other Indo-European languages follow different phonetical laws, which are exclusively peculiar to each of them separately. Thus, in the lexical relation the Slavic and Lithuanian languages are very closely kindred to Sanskrit, and together in the Indo-European tribe they make up something like a separate family, outside of which stand the Persian and Western Europe languages."

Re: Sanskrit 11 months ago #1136

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In this thema is very interesting Slovak historician and lingvistic scientist Ciril A.Hromník work.He live in South Afrika and was predominantli expert in African tribal Hontetotu tribes . Besides Hotemtotu and other bushmans study he open very old Indian influence. To this days he dont interesting Slavic histori or language.But many Indian NOT SANSKRIT BUT DRAVIDS (!) words was very similar Svlavs words.This attract him and than open very new old world.So diferent our today knowledge!
Indian sanskrt was started about 2000 bc. Dravids Indian kingdom was 5000-2000 bc... If you understand Slovac -than you can see/or read/ what mr.Hromník sayd about his new book. /sorry for mi english/










www.marava.sgo.sk/Sloveni,%20unde%20orti%20estis.pdf
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Re: Sanskrit 11 months ago #1137

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C.A.Hromník first book about Dravids /Slovens old kulture : "Sloveni, Slováci, kde sú vaše korene "

www.martinus.sk/?uItem=85132

Re: Sanskrit 10 months, 1 week ago #1138

Slavs back in 6th century AD, never called them selves that way - "Slovani" (Slavs)- the term itself was invented later. They were rather known as Sklavini, Anti, Vendi, Venedi, Scynthians. Term "Slovan" was invented later, as a derivative of "Sloven". But Sloven derived from Skloven; which was a Greek and Latin fusion of 2 words; Byzantium historians understood that "Veneti" spoke similar language as Scynthians (Herodotus's Skolota; but Skolota derived from "Skot" or "skotit"; "crawl, turn around" (also a "birth"), this is a Scynthian KOT or CAT , a sacred, royal animal and also "falcon" (Sokol). The royal symbol of almost any civilization in India, Egypt, Mesopotamia... and Europe; Norik and later Karantania ("black panther")), so they created an addition of "Skol, Skla"(Skolot; Scynthian) & Veni or Venedi; Skla-Vini, Sklaveni. Slov (word) derived from "Lob" (cutting out; from tree, wood, Lubadar (beatle) - spruce bark beetle) with betatism. So "Slov-Veni" ("speaking Veni, Venedi ").

People were speaking - "glagoliti", "govorili" (varili; "fusing together") but original "Slavs" were called in ancient times rather Bharatians (Boreans)- who influenced the artificial "Sanskrit"(Sam-Skriti). They were not "Dravidians".

Sanskrit terms as "GALA" गल (throat) (slovenian "goltanec"; throat; "goltat"; to swallow), galarandhra (गलरन्ध्र) (throat) have Bharatian / Scynthian-Venetic-Sloven-Ant origin; correct transliteration of galarandhra in Slovenian is "Glagolit"("speaking", & glas= "voice")-(ran)-dreti(screaming) ", galadvARA (गलद्वार) - "throat door" ( in slovenian as "glagolit-Dveri"), gulutagolita (note the similarity with "glagolica"; golita) गुलुगुलित- which was transliterated among Hindus as "roaring". If we transliterate whole word from Slovenian language we get; "g(o)lo(s)"(voice)-speaking" (fluidly).

From the same root derives also English "seaGUL" (note that orthodox linguists ignore the fact that GUL derives from "slavic" GALeb, sanskrit "voice", but they never figured out its correct root; derived and influenced in ancient English (Anglian) Wendic language
www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=sea+gull

This is how the so called list of "Indo-European" (artificial "1. language" was born) and the transliterations (including Slavic, "satem") throught "Centum "/Kentum prism...

This is also the way how the "CAT " (KOT) was transliterated as "being germanic in origin".

Sumerian term "GILGAMESH" has among Orthodox linguists an "unknown meaning"... So they rather use Hebrew "transliterations"(instead that also "old" Hebrew derived from Akkadian & Phoenician - Artificially (written later) language, many "think" that it has an "archaic status" of the language; with few exeptions, as example Joseph Yahuda, author of the book Hebrew is Greek, a book of so called "pseudo-paranormal" linguistic (forbidden) theory.

We can now transliterate also "Gilgameš" if we know GUL or GAL; so "Galgal" (voice)-MEŠ (MIXTURE)
(Genesis 11:7)
His second name was Ziusudra(=Sumerian "Noah"; instead that both characters have more or less the almost similar story, Biblical "historians" and many historians again argue about different "story") but many orthodoxic Historians and linguists rather use Greek transliteration of the Sumerian name (not finding it in Sumerian, Akkadian itself) - so "found long life". ( Xisuthros)

But we can translate this word normally againt through Slavic and Sanskrit; Ziu - Sijoč - Sija ("Shining one") - a status of "Nagas/Nachash" (Sanskrit & Hebrew; "snake, reptilian like") ancestry (of "Anunnas, Anunaki") and Sudra/Zudra in Sanskrit as "MIXTURE" (in Slavic "sveder" - vrtat; "rotating" (mixing)).

So which language (and civilization) was the first one and dominant in Mesopotamia, Israel,...; was it Hebrew, Akkadian, Sumerian or simply "northern" "old Sanskrit" (Bharatian, Borean)

Arkaim
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Stonehenge

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Gilgal-Rephaim (=Galgal Rephaim (mixture human) ) , Israel

www.israel-travel-and-tours.com/images/gilgalrefaim1.jpg
Last Edit: 10 months, 1 week ago by VendPrekmurec.

Re: Sanskrit 10 months, 1 week ago #1139

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Dear VendPrekmurec,

I am no expert about sanskrt- than i must trust mr. Hromník, because he was. Maybe yu are too , but this is NOT about sanskrt- this is about drawids /todays tamils / old language.I envy you your conviction in history sources about words SLAV VENET or SKITIANS .
To this days i dont read more logical and scientist explanation our old name SLOVEN.
I dont know if you understand slovak language and understand what mr. Hromník say. His teorie dont stay only in very interesting drawids / slavaks (Slovens) words , but - what is more fantastic /he told about this in some videos but more in books/ about our Slovaks / and i believ same maybe we can find in Slovenia, Poland ... etc/ toponims vith his place in our country in very close continuity betveen mountains, rivers, and - what is more powerfull - vith kompas ( north , west , south , east )orientation- same like south Afrika- but more serious-SAME LIKE ALL INDIA- vith his place of gods and all his gods panteon!
Mi english is bad , if you understand slovak vith touch of mi serbo/croatian i can wrote clearly more details from mr.Hromníks teorie. Or you can buy his book- this is best way

Re: Sanskrit 9 months, 1 week ago #1140

I personally believe that were original Dravidians("furious" - in slovenian & sanskrit; also check river "Drava") much more influenced by Bharatian / Borean ("pra-Slavic"-orig. Rig/Rek Vedic Sanskrit) linguistic groups(who created an artificial HOLY, common language, called "Sanskrit") than is believed...
An example of "Slavic-Dravid" similarity; In Nepal mountains exists a mongoloid tribe called "KIRATA", which means "hilly"( They claim that they were the "original tribe who started with the Shiva cult", before "Aryan" invasion; besides of that they accept this "invasion", exept like Hindus, who are more or less modern transliterators of Vedic gnosis and sanskrit language and who don't believe in so called "Aryan" invasions). In Slavic "hilly" means "Gorata"(K and G). Several orthodox scholars, linguists would immidiatelly understand this as "vice versa" - that "slavs were the ones who were influenced by these mongoloid linguistic groups" back in history.

India (derives from "Anta" or "Inda"; the name today remained in Slovenian "dialect" - language of Prekmurje region, meaning "Ancient one", "once upon a time" (indajšnji; ancient one); where in english T or D derived into soft "Ts" - c) preserved many "pre-Sanskrit", slovenian names of rivers, regions, which were later replaced and mixed by "dravidian" names, which partially or fully changed its original meanings;
example is ancient (today a city under Indian sea) "Krishna's city" called DVARKA, which among serious, orthodox western scholars today means "Golden city"(in Slovenian Prekmurian language and in Russian means "Doors"; Gates; - "Galactic" Gates of Krishna). So what were "ancient russians" doing deeply in southern Indian, "Dravidian" territory pre-5000 BCE...

Re: Sanskrit 9 months, 1 week ago #1141

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Well, i can agree vith you.

But big diferences between your argues / and many others who see clous words in our toponims / and mr.Hromník theory is -if i can say that- profesional scientist rasearch sistem.
You know, all we (slovens) dreeams about international (anglosas/Juwish power world) historics and archeologist acknowledgement .

I think anglosas long time know about it - but its another thema. Its only one way- very precise scientists research.
Any of houndreds ours theorie and ours etrusk and others old texts reading - use slavic language - dont help us. English and German and others European-our Indo - family languages has houndreds of our words. Thay still can say - we can read too- in German - or funy situation- evan Hungarian saiys same ...

Mr. Hromník is for me - one of first - if not first serious scientists vith international reputation - who make very profensional work and in same time open very original extraordinary non conformal theory vith good scientists base.He based not only in language similarities, but religious, geografic, archeological and what is very important industrial relation.

I will try explain in very short : base of Mr.Hromník research is that Dravids 5-6000 B.C maybe more years traveled over the all world - Afrika, Europe, of course Azia evan Amerika and search .... GOLD. Dravids miners cris -cros everywhere -mostly man vithaut woman. In every place of world he contacts homepeople -teach him his language, his miners knowledge, his gods panteon- and replace his gods IN SIMILAR PLACES LIKE IN HIS HOME-INDIA -HIMALAJAS MOUNTAINS. live vith his womans- born childs....

This is what mr. Hromník found in South Afrika.4-5000 b.c old gold mines, old stone construct buildings, many old dravidics worlds in bantu and SAN-HOTENTOTU negro tribes languadges, rivers and mountains has his name and religiouz orientation similar his Indians ... many more.
Same situation he next found in Slovakia- his motherland. I dont know if he has time research this archeological situation in other european coutries- but he open the door...

Gold was no1.next thousands years dravids search - because start BRONZE AGE - copper and most important TIN- cín in Slovak...Because - and that was for me new info. copper was relativli everivhere but TIN WAS VERY RARE ! More than Gold...

( Btw. river name DRAVA is for me more from our Slovak and Czech word DRAVÝ-rapacious, than Drawid. In our country we often use DRAVÁ RIEKA - rapacious river- in sence about quick -stream water vith stones... but maybe i was wrong )
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