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Dušan Vukotić<br><br>Sporočilo urejeno od: urednik, pri: 24/01/2008 10:48

This was one of the possible explanations of the origin of the so-called Illyrian tribal names.

The names of the Balkan Dalmatians (Glamočani) and North-European Delaminci (Glomači) could be taken as the most important (crucial) evidence that Slavic tribes were living in the Balkan even in the most ancient B.C. times.

Regards,
Dušan Vukotić

Dušan, an interesting research work you made there.
One remark though: in some parts try to avoid the single term Serbian. Better use &quot;present day Serbian&quot;, &quot;proto-Serbian&quot; or even &quot;Sclavenic&quot; (Slavic in historical sense), since we do not know the exact historical self-nomination of these tribes.

Sorry, but forum is a place for debate and not publishing - I moved your text to the Blog section and hopefully you do not mind. In the future consider contributing your writings there.

Dušan, an interesting research work you made there.

Thanks.

One remark though: in some parts try to avoid the single term Serbian. Better use &quot;present day Serbian&quot;, &quot;proto-Serbian&quot; or even &quot;Sclavenic&quot; (Slavic in historical sense), since we do not know the exact historical self-nomination of these tribes.

In this case I mainly compared the modern Slavic (Serbian) personal and place names with those that were noted in &quot;Illyria&quot; by Roman writers. I am sure that similar comparison could be made between the modern Slovenian place names and personal names in the relation to the so-called Illyrian tribe names and toponyms.

For instance, Taulanti (Greek Ταυλάντιοι) and Dalmatae (Gr. Δαλματοι) might be equated with the Slovenian Dolenjsko and the people who are living there - Dolenčani. It would be interesting to compare Dolenčane (Dolance; I do not know how exactly you call people from Dolenjsko) and Dolenjsko with the former north-european Slavic tribe named Dolenčani.

Sorry, but forum is a place for debate and not publishing - I moved your text to the Blog section and hopefully you do not mind. In the future consider contributing your writings there.

My apology... I hope I didn't cause you too much trouble; I will keep it in mind.

Regards,
Dušan Vukotić

Yes Dušan, I agree with you, but there are some inappropriate uses of this term.

You are of course right that these names are Serbian, but in scientific research you should rather use other expressions.

For example: The Serbian word KOLO also means 'dance'
Nothing wrong if you are writing for a newspaper, but in a paper you would be more accepted to do so:
The common Slavic word KOLO also means 'dance' in most Slavic languages (Serbian, Slovenian, Czech ...)<br><br>Sporočilo urejeno od: urednik, pri: 27/01/2008 17:12

OK I accept your suggestion.
I was aware of that fact, because I used the term &quot;Slavic Tribes&quot; when titling that small piece of my work.

Maybe it sounds somewhat nationalistic to you and I understand it. As for me, all the Slavic languages are so close to each other that, in genetic sense, they can be considered as a single tongue.

Nevertheless, you are right; I should have paid more attention to formal terminology.

http://my.opera.com/vukotic/blog/show.dml/1699714

Maybe this could be a good subject for discussion.

I am happy if I helped with my suggestion, Dušan.

I see your writings as if you are full of ideas like a vulcano - the only thing you need to be concerned of is how to launch them in order not to hurt others.

I do not see a problem with nationalism, since we are studying merely ancient linguistic and not ethnic communities. And the only way to share our ideas with the so-called rationalistic scientific sphere is to follow their standards of research communication.

About most - did you know that in the Dolomites, there is a village called Ponte (bridge) di Mostizzolo (Mosticolo= Mostič - small bridge with an Italian suffix)

Anyways there should be some more research done on the subject of the Slavic maritime terminology. You can open a new thread on our Forum.<br><br>Sporočilo urejeno od: urednik, pri: 27/01/2008 21:52

Similarities between ancient Illyrian language and modern macedonian language

Illyrian language
Indo-European language spoken in pre-Roman times along the eastern coast of the Adriatic Sea and in southeastern Italy.
The language of the Illyrian fragments found in Italy is usually called Messapic, or Messapian.
Some scholars believe the modern Albanian language (?????????) (q.v.) to be descended from Illyrian.

Those scholars are so blind...